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'set and forget'

Postby willard » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:10 pm

I am trying to use the various control, mixer and effects.

Which of the controller, mixer and effects settings are set and forget?

For example are the mixer slider movements able to be recorded?

I can't find a tutorial on how to use Aria to best advantage and the info in the manuals is sparse to be sure.

Any helped appreciated

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Re: 'set and forget'

Postby rbowser » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:24 pm

Willard - what kind of program are you using ARIA in? Notation or DAW software?

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Re: 'set and forget'

Postby willard » Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:12 am

Randy,

I am using printmusic 2012 w/ VST aria plugin. The file is a standard midi file I got off the net - Copland's "Simple Gifts".

My goal is to develop some of these types of scores so I can sing them in Church w/ the optimal background. I am primarily a singer not pianist/organist. (This also helps to relieve the stress of constantly trying to find fill-ins for the special music section.)

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Re: 'set and forget'

Postby rbowser » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:20 am

Hello again, Willard - Thanks for the reply.

Here are some resources that will be helpful. First is a Forum for discussing the use of PrintMusic:

Finale Forum for PrintMusic

You're probably aware of PrintMusic's limitations compared to Finale, but here's the production comparison chart:

MakeMusic Product Comparison

Currently here on the Garritan Forum, there's a discussion about using General MIDI files. Since that's what you're also wanting to do, you should be aware of this discussion. Notice Forum member SysExJohn has quite a bit of experience. He may able to field questions you may have:

GPO4 & Program Change Messages

Now, some replies to your first post:

willard wrote:I am trying to use the various control, mixer and effects.

Which of the controller, mixer and effects settings are set and forget?

For example are the mixer slider movements able to be recorded?

I can't find a tutorial on how to use Aria to best advantage and the info in the manuals is sparse to be sure.

Any helped appreciated

Willard


You don't mention which Garritan Library you're using, but I'm guessing it would be the most standard one, GPO? In any case, I can see from your questions that using software instruments and a notation program is all new to you, so there's a lot of digging you need to do for information - beyond the scope of what can be given to you in Forum posts.

The manual for ARIA is basic, because its interface is fairly simple. The manual(s) you need to study more on the ones specific to Garritan Libraries. If you have GPO, in your Garritan Program Files, you'll have the large manual that comes with GPO.

Direct answers to your questions: Yes, the mixer and effects in ARIA are basically "set and forget." If you were using DAW software, such as Sonar, Cubase etc., the mixer's sliders could be automated - But that's not really what you want to do. You should set your ARIA faders to levels that give you the balance you want, then its with dynamic markings in your score that you control the volume playback of each instrument. The FX - that's the reverb. You just choose a setting that sounds the way you want and leave it at the one setting for a piece of music. Reverb's purpose is to simulate the effect of instruments being played in a live venue, and since that's the theory, you wouldn't have the size or kind of room change over the course of a piece.

So, this reply is a start - But you do need to start doing more studying!

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"Dorian Gray"

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Garritan Stradivari solo violin
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Sonar 8.5 (have but don't use Sonar X1)
Sony Sound Forge 10
Sibelius 7

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Re: 'set and forget'

Postby willard » Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:43 am

Many thanks Randy.

I have been reading these manuals, studying the tutorials and trying to do as much experimentation as I can. I've gotten some answers (and unfortunately) more questions from reading this forum.

Your answers are very helpful.

Thanks
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